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**Fastolph** · Site Admin Joined: 02 May 2007 Posts: 553

Winterfell wrote:

I don't see why he'd write one from Loras, unless he is going to get more interesting now that he is burned up? He always seemed like an empty headed fool. But GRRM could make him alright with his excellent writing.

You remember what you thought about Jaime in AGOT? Now its one of my favorites POV's so you can never know.

I forgot Davos was somewhere else, but he isnt dead and will probably be back. I still dont think Melissandre will be it. Razz

She'll be staying at the Wall with Jon burning Mance and Craster's son...
Sandor is more likely. And it would be great if it was him... still think of Loras anyway.

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**Phoenix555** · Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:53 am Post subject:

what if we get to see the battle where loras got burned up

**Winterfell** · Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:46 pm Post subject:

Well in that case, then I'd like to read a few Loras chapters! That would be a good scene.

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B. Stark · Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:43 am Post subject:

Personally I think that there is something more going on behind those luxurious curls and almost androgonous sex appeal......

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Akul · Hedge Knight Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 84

I would love it to be Sandor, but my bets are on Loras.

B. Stark · Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:30 am Post subject:

Loras is the to ASOIAF that Legolas was to the LOTR films.

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k · Knight Joined: 20 May 2007 Posts: 136 Location: U.S.A.

Loras' being disfigured would make him more appealing. Is it too much to hope he's bitter and vengefull?

Sandor Clegane is alive. When a charactor dies there is no mystery about it, we see them die, and things often happen to thier bodies.

Anyone think Davos is really dead?

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**Winterfell** · Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:47 am Post subject:

Legolas is a lot better than Loras though... but I see what you mean, both pretty boys and good fighters.

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**Fastolph** · Site Admin Joined: 02 May 2007 Posts: 553

B. Stark wrote:

Loras is the to ASOIAF that Legolas was to the LOTR films.

Sure... pretty soon we'll see Loras skating down a stairs...

With Loras will happen the same that happened with Jaime. Everyone hated Jaime until he had his POV. Wait until Loras gets his, and he'll show us he is not the pretty guy stereotype, as Jaime wasnt the bad cruel guy one.

k wrote:

Anyone think Davos is really dead?

No way. If he kills a POV (or very important character), the least he can do is let us see it.

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k · Knight Joined: 20 May 2007 Posts: 136 Location: U.S.A.

My point exactly!

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Sword_Of_The_Morning · Squire Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 19

My vote is for Loras. Now that his face is burned, he could be an interesting character. Seeing things from the point of view of a Tyrell would be interesting.

I think Sandor is more interesting when we don't get see what is going on in his head. I would rather not see him as a POV. For a character to be an interesting POV, he will need to be go through some sort of character growth. And I can't see Sandor changing.

I think Melisandre is better left in the dark, much Varys and Littlefinger. It is a more interestng story when we don't know they are up to. Sill her as a POV could help build up some tension. She could have some secret contacts, and a plot brewing.

**Dagordur** · Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:18 pm Post subject:

*applaudes to SotM*

very well put man, I'm with you all the way. Also, I'm sure that after the early hint about his fate in AFFC, we'll see more of him in ADWD.

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The King Of NYC · Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:36 pm Post subject:

I'd like to see Loras as a POV , but honestly I'd like Sandor better. I see what SoTM is saying about POV characters but Sandor is one of my favorite in the whole series, I really cant see myself not liking a chapter of his. And I also disagree about him not changing, I think it couldnt be more clear that he's not the person he used to be before going to the monastary island,at least thats what Mr Martin wants us to believe.

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**Winterfell** · Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject:

Perhaps Sandor will eventually be a POV? I'd love that, because I think he is undergoing a lot of changes since he almost died. The idea of Loras as a POV is starting to appeal to me...

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Dragatus · Commoner Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 4

It's hard to say.

I don't think it's Sandor. Even if he really is the guy in the monastery I don't see him starting a brand new storyline. If he has anything left to do it will likely be in the presence of another POV.

Melisandre is this mysterious red lady. Mysterious red ladies tend to be more mysterious if you don't know what they're thinking about. Still, Davos might be dead and then we'd need another character close to Stannis. But if Stannis stays in the north, he'll probably have Jon nearby so that may be fine.

Loras got burned badly and is in danger of dying. But then again, Bran fell and broke his back and look at him now. Being all burned up would just make him a more interesting character and as was noted before, with Cersei in jail we need another King's Landing character.

After thinking it over carefully I think that Loras is most likely, but I wouldn't entirely give up on Melisandre.